major sports championships in the same year. you're familiar with it, red sox and patriots did it two years ago, but still pretty rare. >> i think i'm supposed to rook for mookie betts. still hard. enjoy the games. thanks for joining us. hope to see you this time tomorrow. brianna keilar picks it up right now. hi there, i am brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. today, we're covering the coronavirus crisis in the hardest-hit country in the world which the president made clear last night he wants to ignore. >> they're getting tired of the pandemic, aren't they? getting tired of the pandemic. you turn on cnn, that's all they cover. covid, covid, pandemic, covid, covid. you know why, they're trying to talk everybody out of voting. people aren't buying it, cnn, you dumb bastards.

[ cheers and applause ] >> there are 220,417 reasons to talk about coronavirus. there are nearly 60,000 cases per day in the u.s. and rising. the person whose response failed upon most objective measures is not fixing his government's approach to the crisis, instead he is suggesting we ignore it. the president doesn't even regularly acknowledge the huge loss of life that we have experienced here in the last nine months. in fact, he has instead questioned whether the horrifying number is accurate. 220,000 dead. we cover covid for them and the ones who they leave behind, forced to say good-bye through a phone screen. >> i thanked him for being the most amazing husband. cherished and loved every single day, every single day my husband

wrote me beautiful love letters in the lunch box, not just have a great day, just beautiful letters about what i meant to him. i thanked him. i thanked him. and then i prayed and then the doctor took the phone and he said i'm sorry, but there's no more pulse. and then i played our wedding song for him. and then that was it. >> we cover covid for those who never got the chance to say good-bye. >> he was starting to decline because he did not have a horrible cough the whole time and the 22nd is when i brought him to the hospital and i never saw him again. >> sky, give your mom a hug for us right here. you dropped him off at the hospital. he went inside, they intubated

him immediately. did you have a chance to say good-bye? >> they wouldn't let me in the hospital as he was begging that i need my wife, my wife makes my decisions. they told me to park the car. we thought i was going to get to go in with him. when i walked up to the doors, the hospital is on lockdown, they wouldn't let anybody in. after that, no, that was it. i never got to say i love you, nothing. >> he would do ballet with me. we had daddy daughter things at ballet sometimes and i remember i was trying to take it really seriously and my dad dropped me and i got so upset, but then i started having fun and then we did this funny lift and it was really funny. we just like shared everything. he brought me to school, he brought me to ballet. like he was my everything.

>> we cover covid for the children who bury their mother and then two weeks later their father. >> didn't get to say good-bye to my mom or my dad. that's what hurts as most. >> we got to go to family, didn't have to go to an orphanage. >> we cover it for the hospitals, nurses, janitors forced to see the suffering we don't see. >> one of the issues with the complacency in this country is that people really think it's just the old people in the nursing homes that are dying and that's just crazy. i mean, it's not old people in nursing homes sitting there dying, it is the 82-year-old grandma that lives in the house, takes care of the grandkids so they can go to school so the mother can work who makes that special sauce. i have these people dying. these aren't 80-year-olds that

should die. they weren't 80-year-olds that would die next week. they contracted the virus because a group of people didn't want to wear a mask and had to go out and have fun. it upsets me when everybody says it is just old people, not a big deal. i had a mom and grandmother drive themselves into my hospital and only one drove home. it is really upsetting. >> the ones lucky to survive are still dealing with the impact of the virus months later. others who are trying to stay alive. >> this disease effects not only individuals but their entire families and i feel so much for the people that lost loved ones. i just want everybody to wear their mask, you know. we don't want this. it was not easy. >> we cover covid for the ones that not only lost multiple

family members to the virus but their livelihoods, too. >> very incompetent. not being able to go back to what it was. i lost my dad. it is very hard. it is hard. >> we cover covid for the millions waiting for food banks for their next meals. for the ones struggling to keep a roof over their heads, forced to leave everything they own behind. >> constable, need to come to the door.

>> eviction was going on during corona. when it hit, i lost my job. took me a month to get another job. >> i ain't making it with $300. it is literally $300. >> the stroller now carries their possessions. >> me and her wear the same clothes every day, little bit of snacks for the kids. >> what are you doing with your stuff? >> that's trash, they can throw it in the trash. we don't have a car, don't have help, don't have nobody that can come help us out right now, nobody. we got ourselves, me and the kids and her. that's it. >> we covered covid for the ones who fear they may be next. >> at this apartment, the tenant is an elderly woman that can't afford the rent. the landlords move her. francisco munoz works, though he doesn't want to. >> i have a sister, i love my mom. you never know.

>> we cover covid for students that can't go to school safely and for the parents juggling their children and their jobs. >> i just wanted people to see reality. he came over, we hugged, i was crying along with him. >> we cover covid because at least 14 states report record hospitalizations in the last week because we just saw the highest number of cases on a monday since the peak in july, because experts say the next few weeks will be the darkest yet, and we're not, quote, rounding the turn as the president claims. we cover it because the task force in charge of the response doesn't brief the public any more. the president says everyone is tired of the virus. yeah. we are. but that's where a president is supposed to come in and show leadership that can help americans push through when they're already spent.

instead, he's talked more in the past 24 hours about anthony fauci's pitching arm than any of the victims that you just saw there. or the ones who are suffering and struggling. this is why we cover covid. and until these numbers on your screen slow down, we're not going to stop. and even though president trump held his last in person meeting with dr. fauci in mid august, he's escalating attacks on the nation's top infectious disease expert with two weeks until election day. >> he's a nice guy, but he's been wrong. first he said don't wear a mask, i'm sure you have that clip. he said many things. he said let the people from china that are heavily infected, let them come in. he admits he was wrong, and admits that i saved thousands of lives. reporters like him because they think he's against me. he's not really against me. he is a little bit sometimes not

a team player, but he is a democrat and i think that he's just fine. >> for his part, dr. fauci says the president's comments are just a distraction and he is keeping his focus on fighting the pandemic. >> it's like in "the godfather." nothing personal, strictly business as far as i'm concerned. i just want to do my job, take care of the people of this country. that's all i want to do. >> gloria borger, chief political analyst. there's a recent kaiser foundation poll shows 68% of americans trust dr. fauci to provide reliable information when it comes to covid-19, compared to president trump, he's just at 40%. of those that trust fauci, nearly half them are republicans. i wonder, gloria, for the president's closing argument, does this even make sense? >> no. of course it doesn't make any sense. when you talk to people in the

campaign they'll tell you it doesn't make any sense. you should be talking about the economy, what his plan is for the next four years, but instead what he's doing is talking about personal grievance. when he ran in 2016, one of the reasons he was successful, bri, he talked about other people's personal grievances. now he's talking about his own personal grievances. and one of his own is obviously tony fauci whom he is clearly jealous of, not only because people trust him more, he is more popular, but because he was on "60 minutes" and donald trump wasn't on 60 minutes. he wasn't surprised that he contracted covid-19. he uses tony fauci in a political ad to make his point about how great he is, takes words out of context. what does fauci do?

he says that was wrong, and he was harassed and that should not have happened. so he doesn't like tony fauci because he begs to differ with him in public. >> you have this great new op-ed out on cnn.com. you write about how badly the president needs a reset. i mean, that's very clear. >> yeah. >> you point out it likely is not going to happen. >> sure, it is not going to happen. when he was sick with covid, some friends of his were calling him at the hospital and i was told by a source familiar with the conversations that they tried to kind of gently nudge him, say look, this is a moment to tell the american public that you understand what they're going through. those stories, brianna, that you just showed. his friend said to him, you can tell the public now you get it and of course that is not what he did. he marched up on a balcony at the white house, ripped off his mask, and he proceeded to say

i've beaten it. you can beat it. don't let it dominate your life. i was talking to one of his biographers who explained it to me this way. i thought it was very accurate. he said look, donald trump can never backtrack, he can never admit he made a mistake because once he has done that, he can't be the best at everything any more. he can't know more than the doctors. so it is not within his leks con to say i made a mistake, i learned, let's move on together. that's just never going to happen, bri. >> no. i think we have seen that after four years now, definitely. gloria, thank you so much. great to see you. >> sure. the clock is ticking. tonight is the deadline for congress and the white house to reach a stimulus deal. are they anywhere close? plus, learning a woman in her 30s died from coronavirus after boarding a flight. and a sobering timetable for a coronavirus vaccine.

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right now, house speaker nancy pelosi and the white house have just hours left to reach a deal by day's end to get stimulus relief to millions of americans before election day. pelosi and the treasury secretary steve mnuchin will speak at 3:00 p.m. today, and the president said he wants a bigger stimulus deal than what democrats want. >> i want to do it even bigger than the democrats. not every republican agrees with me, but they will. but i want to do it even bigger than the democrats because this is money going to people that did not deserve what happened to them coming out of china. now, to just put it simply, we

want to do it, but nancy pelosi doesn't want to do it. >> cnn business anchor julia chatterley is with us to discuss this. how likely is a deal? >> brianna, hopes are sinking fast. there's deep skepticism any deal can be reached, never mind getting it enshrined in law before the election. you have to remember it is not a two way fight, it is a three way plus fight. who is winning in this case? the president can suggest he wants a deal bigger than the democrats, but if he doesn't have enough of his own senate republicans on board, then a deal ultimately is not going to happen, even if negotiators can agree to one here. i think to eliminate that point, republicans are talking about presenting a super skinny $500 billion deal in the senate tomorrow for small businesses. democrats are expected to vote that down again. and the irony is that both sides agree small businesses need support. but brianna, it is not even just about the size of the deal, it's

also about how the money will be spent. we know this, we discussed it before. i can give you a whole list of issues here. earlier this week, nancy pelosi talking about the specific language with regards to testing and tracing. we've got expansion of unemployment insurance, funds for state and local governments, specifically how money is spent. republicans want it focused on covid related issues, democrats want more leeway to spend on things like pension. read for yourself, there's a host of other issues, all of the loose ends need tying up. it is tough and difficult to see a deal agreed in the coming hours here. while lawmakers can fight over the politics here, millions of americans are fighting for survival and that's the tragedy. >> they are. i mean, they are trying to put food on the tables and trying to keep a roof over their heads and assuming look, it is not looking good here. if talks fail, how long will

struggling americans have to wait for relief? >> this is a great question. the risk is they have to wait a lot longer. there's a window of opportunity post election, clearly depends on who wins the election. lawmakers have to come back before december 11th to fund the government to prevent a shutdown. perhaps there's room for legislation there. i think the real risk is we have to wait until next year until after the inauguration to see something done. and brianna, we're talking approaching a year since the cares act was signed and people got desperate needed stimulus checks in their hands, it is unimaginable and it is unacceptable. >> indeed. unacceptable. julia, thank you so much for joining us. there are new details about a woman in her 30s who died from coronavirus while on a flight, plus a new study just in about whether it is safe for kids to go back to school. and just in. 14 days to go, news on melania trump's covid recovery and joe

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just in her 30s died from coronavirus during a flight. let's get to cnn aviation correspondent pete monteen. they say the person had serious pre-existing conditions. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right. this could be the first case of somebody dying of coronavirus on board a u.s. flight since the pandemic began. here's what we know from the dallas county judge that certifies deaths. she had significant pre-existing conditions, died on board a domestic flight. we don't know which airline it involves. we checked with american and southwest, they deny any involvement. we also do not know how a person with coronavirus was able to board a flight in the first place. for months, airlines have been asking passengers to certify they don't have coronavirus symptoms when they check in for a flight. what's so interesting is that all of this is coming down when more and more studies say being on an airplane is relatively

safe in the pandemic. last week, department of defense says risk of aerosol transmission of coronavirus is relatively low, but just today the centers for disease control said a mask must be worn by paepae passengers and workers at all times, including the terminal and security where people get bottled up, and risk of covid transmission is relatively high. what this will do for fears of fliers still remains to be seen. just on sunday, tsa says a million people passed through security at america's airports. a first in the pandemic. but the figures are still only about 40% of a year ago. >> just to underscore, the cdc just said that about masks. >> reporter: they just said that, hasn't been given much chief because of the federal government not letting new regulations, the faa shied away

from requiring masks. the airlines required that they wear masks. >> pete, thank you for that report. there's a just released study that is suggesting ways to reduce transmission of coronavirus inside a classroom. physicists at the university of mexico set up a test classroom of students nearly 8 feet from each other, and connected 20 simulations. they found it helps to open windows, of course, turn on air conditioning or heat to get air circulating, and to attach shields to the front of desks. they recommend students stay away from ac or heat outlets where the particles gather and reduce or get rid of a middle seat. the doctor is an associate professor of medicine and ny health and contributing editor at health magazine. what did you take away from the findings? >> well, i think it was an interesting study. they did computer simulations to get all of the data you just presented. and it shows us that there are

steps we can take to make schools safer for kids going back to school. remember, this was a very sort of rarified situation where the desks were very far apart, almost eight feet apart, more than six feet we generally talk about, and only nine students in the classroom when they did the simulation. how practical it is for most schools around the country is not clear, but there are interesting an important lern learning from it. ventilation can make a difference in how many particles stay in the classroom as opposed to exiting the windows. windows should be open whenever possible. they also stress that hand washing is important still with all of the measures because you do still have significant virus staying in the classroom, even with the best measures. glass shields are also effective. that was another point schools will take into account. >> it is hard to hear the recommendations when they talk about windows. a lot of classrooms don't have

windows that open. that isn't even an option for them. i want to talk vaccines with you because dr. francis collins, nih director firmed up the vaccine time line on npr today. let's listen. >> many uncertainties. i am guardedly optimistic we will have one or more of these that will pass this high standard of safety and efficacy. >> not in the next couple of weeks, we would assume, right? >> i would think it is very unlikely given the timetables and standards that have to be followed that you will hear about emergency use authorization before late november at the earliest. >> does this make you feel more confident about the safety of the vaccine when it's ready and if approval happened before then, is that something you might be skeptical about? >> well, it gives me confidence that the top leaders and scientists in the country are being cautious and saying we're going to wait as long as it takes until we have a safe and effective vaccine. if they actually by a lot of

good luck are able to make that declaration earlier than end of november, i would trust them and have confidence in what they're saying but the truth is it is very unlikely as he just said because there has to be so much data that needs to be collated, side effects need to be explained or understood. it will take some time. if he's saying end of november is the soonest, that's i think a realistic even optimistic perhaps point of view, if we could get it by end of the year, we should consider ourselves lucky. >> dr. raj, good to see you. >> thank you. good news for americans purchasing insurance on obamacare exchanges. even as the president tries to kill the law without a replacement for it. and a republican lawmaker in south dakota is battling covid and says it is the most devastating thing he has been through. he is going to join us live. another fox host pedals a baseless smear against joe biden. we'll roll the tape.

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battleground state of pennsylvania. the president's visit follows a supreme court ruling that pennsylvania's mail in ballots can be counted if they're received up to three days after the election, even if they don't have a legible postmark. the president, not happy about it this morning. >> we got a ruling yesterday that was ridiculous where they can count ballots after the election is over. what kind of thing. what does that mean, wait until after november 3srd to announce states? got a strange ruling from the supreme court yesterday, it was very strange. >> kaitlan collins is in erie, pennsylvania ahead of the campaign stop there tonight. and mj lee, political correspondent is covering the story from wilmington, delaware. melania trump was supposed to join the president, now she is not. what happened? >> reporter: yeah, we just got a statement from her chief of staff saying that the first lady will not be joining the president here in pennsylvania today as scheduled to do. she said in the statement it is out of abundance of caution but

did say melania trump still has a lingering cough after her recent bout with coronavirus, of course, which she announced last week she tested negative for and said she pursued a much different treatment route than the president did, instead not taking any of the aggressive treatments that the president took, steroid and the antibody treatment from regeneron, instead relied on herbs, taea ad vitamins for treatment. she will not be coming here to pennsylvania. and this is noteworthy, brianna. it would have been the first time we saw melania trump joining him on the campaign trail since 2019 when there was a rally to kickoff the president's re-election swing last year. she was there in florida, we were there for that. she will not be here on the campaign trail with the president two weeks before election day. and that's notable of course as the president is trying to build support with suburban women voters who helped him win states like pennsylvania in 2016. now of course he is trailing joe biden and they're not expected

to meet again until thursday on the debate stage, given that joe biden is not out here campaigning in pennsylvania. it is likely the president may reference that tonight and also of course that monumental supreme court decision to allow the state of pennsylvania and their counties to take the ballots up to three days after election day, something you heard from the president he wasn't happy about on the phone interview with fox news this morning. then we heard from surrogates as well, they see as a major win for democrats. you're seeing how democrats are outregistering those in pennsylvania and requesting more absentee ballots by a sizable margins than republicans are. >> thank you. mj, you have new details as we look towards the next debate, of course, both candidates should be preparing but i know you have details on how joe biden is preparing. >> reporter: that's right, brianna. this is the second day in a row we have seen joe biden off the campaign trail. he is here in wilmington, delaware meeting with advisers,

and we spoke to a biden adviser what the campaign is expecting heading into thursday night. one of the things they said is that they fully expect president trump to, quote, bully and deflect on the debate stage, and also not only is the former vice president expecting a tax on him, but again expecting president trump to attack family members as well. in the first debate we saw president trump going after joe biden's son, hunter biden. in terms of what the biden campaign is hoping in terms of biden's overarching goals for debate night, they say they're not so different from the first debate. he wants to talk directly to the american people. he obviously wants to talk a lot about covid-19, and bringing the economy back. as part of that, we are obviously going to see biden as he has been doing the last few weeks point out the fact that president trump has not been painting a realistic picture how serious the virus is. in terms of the new debate commission rule that was

announced about muting mics while each candidate gets two minutes to speak uninterrupted, the biden adviser said we expect the similar performance from president trump and ask for enforcing the rule that each principal has to get tested for covid-19 before the debate. they said that's up to the commission and the cleveland clinic. we'll see what happens on that front. before i go, i want to note that tomorrow we are going to see a very high profile surrogate campaign on biden's behalf on the campaign trail. former president barack obama is going to be in philadelphia at a drive in rally. this is a kind of event that's become a signature biden campaign event in the middle of the pandemic, brianna. >> we'll be watching. mj, kaitlan, thank you. third year in a row, premiums for the benchmark plan are getting cheaper, even as president trump railed against

it and pledged to scrap it and replace with a yet to be announced health care plan. the administration takes credit for making obamacare plans more attractive to consumers. i want to bring in tammy luby. we're in the midst of a pandemic. there's record unemployment. why are premiums going down? >> well, the affordable care act is becoming a little more affordable. premiums for 2021 go down 2%, on average, for benchmark silver plan which means a 27-year-old is paying on average $379 while a family of four will be paying just under 1500. this is the third year in a row premiums are going down. total of 8%. why is that happening? when insurance first came on the market, when the market was first created in 2014, they didn't know how to price premiums. it ended up people were sicker than they expected and insurance lost money.

over the first few years, they increased the premiums a lot in order to make up for the huge losses they were experiencing. but now finally insurers figured out how much to charge consumers and last three years, they've been dropping premiums slightly. as i said, total of 8%. and they're now finding the market to be pretty attractive and for many profitable. >> can you fact check the claim by the trump administration that they're making this more attractive for people to purchase obamacare, is that true? >> well, in one way they are. they have actually approved a lot of state applications for what we call reinsurance which shields insurers, what is called reinsurance, which shields insurers from high cost patients. through these waiver approvals, states have been able to lower the premiums for the plans.

so in that respect it is helping lower premiums. >> very interesting. tammy, we will be watching with you to see what happens with obamacare as the administration wants to dismantle it, even as there are things they're doing to make it more popular. it is very odd. tammy, thank you for walking us through that. just ahead, a lawmaker from south dakota is going to join me live, going to talk about his personal battle with coronavirus. he says it was so bad, he went to the emergency room twice this month. plus, health officials in one state blame white people who refuse to wear masks for big outbreaks they're seeing there. we'll have details ahead. rself in your new glasses and think, "ooh!" but if you get home and your "ooh" is more of a "hmm..." you have 100 days to change your mind. that's the visionworks difference. visionworks. see the difference. our flight is early tomorrow. and it's a long flight too. once we get there, we will need... buttercup!

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the south dakota house speaker describes his battle with krrch kcoronavirus at "the devastating stuff i have ever had." diagnosed with covid-19 since the start of the pandemic one of the more than 33,000 cases in his state of south dakota. numbers skyrocketed in the last month. he's with us now to talk about this. speaker, thank you so much for joining us. i know this has been quite the o ordeal for you spending the last few weeks dealing with a severe case of coronavirus. how are you feeling now? >> thankful to be on the mend. i've been fever-free for three or four days now. and just trying to gain some strength back. so it was about a week and a half of not eating and just enduring a fever that seemed to range anywhere from 100 to 105.

so -- took its toll, but thankful to be on this side of it. >> and what took you to the hospital twice? >> well, both times such exhaustion and a need for fluids. so went in a couple of times and got i.v. fluids, and got back on track a bit, and then the feeve ran its course. takes so many days for the virus to run its course, and once that finally happened and i was able to get back to the point where food was an option. >> food was an option. so you could try to gain some of that weight back you lost, and tell us wa were you doing around the time that you would have contracted the virus? do you have any idea where you might have gotten it? >> no. i have a law practice and also a number of events that have gone

on in the past month. so i've been around dozens and hundreds of people in the past few weeks. so it's pretty hard to identify where it would have originated. the research i did early on back in the spring to make myself aware of what this virus was all about seemed to suggest that some dnas are more is septembsu to it and i recently read a research stud they suggested that certain blood types are more vulnerable to it and my blood type is one of those. so type a and, type a, type b, type ab, and apparently type o is not quite as vulnerable but sure there are exceptions to that, too. so just seems that it has just about zero impact on most people, and has a dramatic impact on others. >> yeah. that is certainly something researchers are looking into. they're seeing early indications showing that that requires more

study as they try to draw conclusions about that. there is a state representative, you're aware of, blob glancer, who died from the coronavirus. your mayor there in sioux falls saying wear a dang mask, as he tries to get through to people that they should be wearing a mask. do you think that south dakotans are getting the message about what they need to do to stay safe? >> i think nationwide people  have the understanding of what they need to do. it's just a matter of trying to apply that in all the circumstances. certainly there's good compliance with those stores that require masks, and even during our special session a couple weeks ago, there was good compliance at that time as well. so, you know, we try to be as careful as possible but it's a virus. it's just out there. it's microscopic. so it's impossible to make sure that you've covered all your

bases, but i'm thankful for the experience. i'm thankful to be on this side of it. so -- i think that going forward we need to make some better plans for what our session's going to look like in january-february. we'll be doing that in the next couple of weeks. >> thwere an estimated half a million people who attended the ten-day sturgis motorcycle rally. the famous motorcycle raglly bak in august without restrictions, a decision your governor decided to proceed with. in retrospect, do you think that was a mistake? >> no. i think you've got to open up the society again. when i looked at the numbers early on, this, you know, back in i think it was the time it frame of march-april this year compared to march-april of last year, the number of mental illness calls in our county went up 130% and the number of simple assault, assaults, 35% to 65%

up. number of disorderly conducts up 525%. so there are a lot of balancing factors to put into this equation. can't just lock down society. and probably something we might have made a mistake along the way with was locking down the schools as much as we have. especially since the vulnerability of children is pretty low. so there are things in hindsight we probably should have done differently. as far as locking things down, i don't think we should, as far as exercising reasonable protocols for those that are vulnerable, i think that's very reasonable, and, again, i think more information the better as far as -- >> can you speak -- speaker -- >> blood types -- yes? >> speaker, i think when you say-i understand what you're saying. i know there are a lot of factors to weigh and what we've heard from a lot of americans is they're willing to accept some

risk but not unmitigated risk. back to the issue of the sturgis motorcycle rollie rally. your state does not have a mask mandate. there was not mask-wearing writ large at sturgis. it's been traced to spreading. i hear what you're saying about you can't lock everything down. there are people who be certainly having mental health issues, but isn't there a way to do this in a safer way so that you don't have to totally shut down, but you can still preserve the lives of people, you know, like your republican colleague. like people who have suffered cases coming out of sturgis? >> well, it's -- to me, pretty hard to identify with any great degree of certainty the spread of that particular virus through the sturgis rally. i know i saw estimates of tens

of thousands of people and i don't know that you could tie all that together. all of those people interact with hundreds of people along the way to sturgis, and as they got home they interacted with others at home. so i don't think those are very reliable stats, but it's certainly reasonable to tell people what their options are and gish them those options. let them exercise those choices as responsibilitily as possible. responsibly as possible. >> speaker, i appreciate you joining us. speaker steve haugaard, thank you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. dr. anthony fauci responding to the president's attacks quoting the "godfather" plus the race to 270 with two weeks left until the election. looking at the best paths for both joe biden and president trump. ♪ you can go your own way

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